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Thank you. :)

Me, personally? 2 weeks.
Basically what happened is this was a factory order by an old guy who ultimately had to cancel the order a month before it arrived, as the DVLA had taken his driving license away from him due to poor eyesight. With the car pretty much completing production by this point, the dealer kept the order on the books anyway in the knowledge that they'd still be able to sell the car as-is. The car had just arrived at the dealer when I put my offer in.

Took 2 weeks because the car needed to be registered first and get plates sorted out. However, when I initially enquired about lead times on Alfa Romeo, they said 5-6 months. They're not hit as hard by the global lead times because Alfa Romeo doesn't sell in vast quantities the way that VAG brands, Ford, Fiat etc do and they don't share production lines (apparently. Coulda sworn I heard they use Fiat's factory...)

Benefit of buying a car this way? Well aside from not having to wait, I got a £24,000 discount off the retail price. =D
Thanks man. WOW - 24,000 pounds discount !!!! Never heard of such big fat one. Good job. :) No, Alfa Romeo do not use Fiat factory. They have their own in Casino. I am not sure if now they share it with Maserati Grecale though???
 

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...and then 'R' in Llyswen when I scare the bejeezus out of my dad in it.
Since there's no launch control, what I have found to be the most effective technique to power brake: Press hard on the brake, half way on the gas pedal to about 2,200 rpm for little over a second almost two (to let it build boost), punch the gas as you're releasing the brake.

More time than that doesn't do anything...if you start pinning tires when still braking you might even end up with a red message on the cluster due to driving while braking (if this were to happen, you need to shut the engine off and restart).

Scaring people on it is always fun, especially when it is your own family! :)
 

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Thanks man. WOW - 24,000 pounds discount !!!! Never heard of such big fat one. Good job. :) No, Alfa Romeo do not use Fiat factory. They have their own in Casino. I am not sure if now they share it with Maserati Grecale though???
Even if they do share it with Maserati, it's not like those get ordered in big numbers either. In any case: Alfa Romeo don't seem to be doing too bad with delays. Considering the car I previously had on order (and cancelled after waiting far too long) was from Skoda, and whilst the dealers are hesitant to admit it they have a 2-year waiting list.

Since there's no launch control, what I have found to be the most effective technique to power brake: Press hard on the brake, half way on the gas pedal to about 2,200 rpm for little over a second almost two (to let it build boost), punch the gas as you're releasing the brake.

More time than that doesn't do anything...if you start pinning tires when still braking you might even end up with a red message on the cluster due to driving while braking (if this were to happen, you need to shut the engine off and restart).

Scaring people on it is always fun, especially when it is your own family! :)
Thanks, man. I did see reviews pointing out the lack of launch control, so it's good to know where the sweet spot is for a 'manual launch' so to speak. ;) :LOL:
 
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R is better for turning a 2 hour journey into 3 hours, taking the back road long route.
Chart aside, a lot of discussion etc years ago on the giulia forum regarding cylinder deactivation. It only happens under specific conditions, and if it happens in N I have never noticed it - but maybe I never meet the conditions. What is obvious though is at a cruise the transmission selects a higher gear in N than D, and D than R.
Cylinder deactivation happens in A-N-D mode. It's just untill about 120km/ph. It's only active under a certain ammount of requested torque. Cruise control untill 120km/ph keeps the torque low enough.
I love the feature by the way. It drops the fuel consumption massively.
 

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"Deactivation happens"
Can't recall anything/anyone suggesting it occurs in D mode.
"Cruise control " until 120 km/ph? Ok. I dont use CC, but I would expect most who do use it above that speed for actual cruising, not below where its just a step closer to self driving, which isn't what an Alfa is for.
I do think that if fuel consumption is a concern, then the 4 cyl is a better choice. The reason for purchasing a quad is the opposite of economy, so its a waste of big bucks right off the lot, and every time its serviced as well. Why buy a more powerful car for economy/economy driving style?
 

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"Deactivation happens"
Can't recall anything/anyone suggesting it occurs in D mode.
"Cruise control " until 120 km/ph? Ok. I dont use CC, but I would expect most who do use it above that speed for actual cruising, not below where its just a step closer to self driving, which isn't what an Alfa is for.
I do think that if fuel consumption is a concern, then the 4 cyl is a better choice. The reason for purchasing a quad is the opposite of economy, so its a waste of big bucks right off the lot, and every time its serviced as well. Why buy a more powerful car for economy/economy driving style?
I think that is a very bold claim. I drive about 35.000km a year with the Stelvio Q, mostly in my country where the speed max is 100km/ph. I do however also drive the car on long trips between The Netherlands and Italy, cruising on the German autobahn at high speeds. How much do you drive yearly?
I drive a Stelvio Q because I can and I love the car and it's engine, but I also do car with business trips to keep the fuel acceptable. Besides, their is written all over the internet that CD also works in D-mode. I can adjust my exhaust valve with the hill decent control button, so when driving with the valves opened in D-mode, I can litteraly hear it happen.
 

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"Deactivation happens"
Can't recall anything/anyone suggesting it occurs in D mode.
"Cruise control " until 120 km/ph? Ok. I dont use CC, but I would expect most who do use it above that speed for actual cruising, not below where its just a step closer to self driving, which isn't what an Alfa is for.
I do think that if fuel consumption is a concern, then the 4 cyl is a better choice. The reason for purchasing a quad is the opposite of economy, so its a waste of big bucks right off the lot, and every time its serviced as well. Why buy a more powerful car for economy/economy driving style?
I agree with the comment on "D" mode, it doesn't happen although there are a few old forum posts that suggest Alfa advertised it in the past as happening...however, all published documentation (mainly screenshots from the mechanics manual) state it only happens on A & N modes.

I often use cruise control between 65 MPH and 70 MPH (which is below 120 km/h). My main reason is that I'm not in a rush to get to my destination, I will be driving for 30-35 miles and I don't see the point of wasting more gas than needed by driving on D or even N.
 

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I agree with the comment on "D" mode, it doesn't happen although there are a few old forum posts that suggest Alfa advertised it in the past as happening...however, all published documentation (mainly screenshots from the mechanics manual) state it only happens on A & N modes.

I often use cruise control between 65 MPH and 70 MPH (which is below 120 km/h). My main reason is that I'm not in a rush to get to my destination, I will be driving for 30-35 miles and I don't see the point of wasting more gas than needed by driving on D or even N.
Horsepoop. Even the most specialized tuner in the Alfa scene, Squadra Tuning, says it at their website:

"Onder rustige deellast omstandigheden wordt de helft van de V6 uitgeschakeld. Niet alleen in de A- en de N-stand maar zelfs in Dynamic. "
Which means:
"Under calm part-load conditions, half of the V6 is switched off. Not only in A and N mode, but even in Dynamic."

 

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Did some re-reading on the deactivation - and yes, there are posts saying it can occur in D, and others saying it doesn't. Then there's the conditions required and indications that you won't notice if it does kick in.
I'll say I've never noticed if it has, but I have not done OBD monitoring, which gave different answers, to the above posters.
As far as choice of cars, that is yours, for whatever reason (government carrot/stick aside), but to me the quad wouldn't be worthwhile if costs (initial, maintenance, and the least of all, fuel) were an issue, or a supple ride for cruise type driving.
But you sure don't have to justify to me why you want or have one.
 

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Did some re-reading on the deactivation - and yes, there are posts saying it can occur in D, and others saying it doesn't. Then there's the conditions required and indications that you won't notice if it does kick in.
I'll say I've never noticed if it has, but I have not done OBD monitoring, which gave different answers, to the above posters.
As far as choice of cars, that is yours, for whatever reason (government carrot/stick aside), but to me the quad wouldn't be worthwhile if costs (initial, maintenance, and the least of all, fuel) were an issue, or a supple ride for cruise type driving.
But you sure don't have to justify to me why you want or have one.
You won't notice it when you are not able to control the valves in the A-N-D modes. Only if you can, you will. With the cylinder deactivation, their will be a much louder drone sound coming from the exhaust. You can hear it immediately and you will see your instant consumption go down.
You will never notice it by vibrations, a sudden shortcut of power, or whatsoever.
Besides: for me the Q is the perfect car to combine both desires. Easy going on business trips with very resonable consumption and an absolute monster when I want it to be. The fact the car can do both extremely well is the reason why I bought it. I had a Stelvio 2.0T before by the way.
 

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"How much do you drive yearly"
No where near as much as you, not that it matters. Still, it sounds like for the bulk of your driving the more fuel efficient and gentler ride of the 4 would be preferable. But if your occasional autobahn use is at speeds beyond what the 4 is comfortable at (you won't get deactivation then), great. And if you just like the sound thats fine too. Just my 2 cents worth of opinion, which isn't even worth that - if we are counting pennies haha.
 

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But you sure don't have to justify to me why you want or have one.
While I don't have to justify, it is always fun to share why I wanted one. I wanted to have fun in the car from time to time, from light to light or at the track...yes, any car can provide that but only a few are muscle monsters like the Stelvio QV.
I don't mind burning through fuel when I'm pushing it to the limits but I also don't want to waste it when cruising with the family, which is the reason why I use A mode only on highways.
 

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The fact that we're still debating when cylinder deactivation happens makes me feel much better about being confused about it in my initial review. 😅
 

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While I don't have to justify, it is always fun to share why I wanted one. I wanted to have fun in the car from time to time, from light to light or at the track...yes, any car can provide that but only a few are muscle monsters like the Stelvio QV.
I don't mind burning through fuel when I'm pushing it to the limits but I also don't want to waste it when cruising with the family, which is the reason why I use A mode only on highways.
I agree with you - it's fun to share what made us buy the cars we buy. If the same car was right for everybody, then everybody would just buy the same car.

For me, I already have a daily runner - a Kona EV. I charge it at home and use it to drive locally (which is like... 99% of trips).
But I have family in Wales who I see a couple of times a year, and a work office in Leeds that I only need to go to when the manager decides he wants a face-to-face meeting (which, since covid, has only happened twice).

My QF is ostensibly for those longer journeys, but really it's a weekend toy. I play D&D with some friends just out of town on sundays. There are some nice roads between me and them. I'll be using this beauty. On top of that, I have a big dog, and there are some decent nature reserves nearby that's good for walks, making the Stelvio a better option than the Giulia.

But the final piece of the puzzle - and the main reason I got a QF and not, say, the Veloce model - is because years ago I had a 'pride and joy' motor that I had to sell due to greater needs. I was gutted about selling it, and I've missed it ever since. But now years later I'm in a position where I can once again have something truly nice.

And this is it. This is my pride and joy. That's not something I can rationalise or justify, but eh, we're all Alfa owners here - you understand.
 

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I agree with you - it's fun to share what made us buy the cars we buy. If the same car was right for everybody, then everybody would just buy the same car.
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But the final piece of the puzzle - and the main reason I got a QF and not, say, the Veloce model - is because years ago I had a 'pride and joy' motor that I had to sell due to greater needs. I was gutted about selling it, and I've missed it ever since. But now years later I'm in a position where I can once again have something truly nice.

And this is it. This is my pride and joy. That's not something I can rationalise or justify, but eh, we're all Alfa owners here - you understand.
Similar to you, I too had a car that was a pride and joy, missed the muscle car-destroyer ability of the family car, a 1999 Benz E55. Using my 50th b-day as an excuse I got this Quadrifoglio :)
 
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