https://youtu.be/66XgLhfs-jk
Nice comparo. Guess which wins?
Nice comparo. Guess which wins?
because on the non Q, you can't turn the TCS off, so it will not allow you get it very sideways. In the snow it'll allow a small Scandinavian flick and hold the read out a little, but not very muchwhat is good about that trilogy of videos is that it shows the stelvio to be capable of nicely controlled oversteer.
virtually all of the press intro videos gave the impression that oversteer was very suddenly/abruptly corrected by instant transfer of power to the front.
well yes, I was referring to stelvio quad videos, where although the drivers claimed to be in race mode, the 'corrections" were quite abrupt. could be just a matter of driving .... style.
Interesting read, it just confirms my thoughts that this is a very well-made transmission.Just to add... new info to me that the trans in Quadrofolio is the same as in our pedestrian Stelvios and Guilias and also the same in the Hellcat Mopar products, SRT Hellcat products (including Jeep) and a wide range of other vehicles. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ZF_8HP_transmission
What this tells me is that in addition to being super fast in gear changes, it is heavy duty enough to handle the stresses of 500+ horsepower and track duty.
From an owner standpoint I love the intuitive downshifts and versatility and also the fact that it is well-proven for durability and reliability. Ben fatto, Alfa Romeo!
Technically it's not the same, the one for the Quad is the slightly beefier ZF8HP75 (2nd Generation) version which is rated for more torque (750 NM / 553 ft·lbf) than our "pedestrian" ZF8HP50 (2nd Generation) version which is rated for a more "pedestrian" 500 NM / 368 ft·lbf of torque.Just to add... new info to me that the trans in Quadrofolio is the same as in our pedestrian Stelvios and Guilias and also the same in the Hellcat Mopar products, SRT Hellcat products (including Jeep) and a wide range of other vehicles. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ZF_8HP_transmission
What this tells me is that in addition to being super fast in gear changes, it is heavy duty enough to handle the stresses of 500+ horsepower and track duty.
From an owner standpoint I love the intuitive downshifts and versatility and also the fact that it is well-proven for durability and reliability. Ben fatto, Alfa Romeo!
Given the percent of time most people drive at 90 mph, I would say that is a fair trade. you can get away with 90 mph on a few roads in Texas where speed limit is 80 mph- but there simply aren't that many 80 mph roads in the USA.Well maybe the Stelvio is lighter and more agile during city driving, the Macan feels like a heavier car, but it is a tank at highesy speeds....you can be driving at 100 mph and it feels like nothing, but in the Stelvio....aftet 90 mph the wind noise is deafening!!!
Given the percent of time most people drive at 90 mph, I would say that is a fair trade. you can get away with 90 mph on a few roads in Texas where speed limit is 80 mph- but there simply aren't that many 80 mph roads in the USA.