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The Edge is fun car in a different way. Definitely see it being enjoyable.

Also interested in mileage on the car, help us know if this is a developing issue or more unique. It is hard dealing with tough to diagnose problems when the dealer is a long ways away. Best thing about Ford is there are almost always multiple dealers if one is bad, and the problems with the cars are a more known factor.
 

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Why do some brands overcharge for service? Because some consumers thinks it's harder to find a good indpedent place then it is.

I don't know SF real well, but... Let's put it this way. I live near the Joshua Tree National Park. Nearest "city" Twentynine Palms, population 26,147 on a good day. EVERY AUTO SHOP IN TOWN CAN AND WILL WORK ON MY CAR. Not exaggerating, all of them can do it (the Jeep dealer in Yucca Valley won't). I highly doubt the shops in 29Palms - a literal backwater - are more up to date on computer scanning equipment then shops in San Francisco, or pretty much anywhere outside of a third world country.

Nothing about the car is unique including the software, its a standard FCA/Stellantis package...lots of cars use SGWs. MultiECUScan works on more cars then just Alfa's...because the software isn't unique to the brand. I realize the worries..also realize most of those worries exist because of incorrect information. Not trying to be a jerk, trying to clear up a misunderstanding so people don't get manipulated.

The absolute worst thing that could possibly happen by going to an independent shop instead of a dealer for maintenance is the reminder inside the infotainment system won't get reset. Please understand, the only time I ever took my car to the dealer for the oil, THEY DIDN'T RESET THAT REMINDER. so yeah..not a big deal. The maintenance reminder doesn't outweigh a reciept for an oil change, it isn't anything real. As long as you have reciepts your warranty is fine even if every maintence light has been in for 4 years. 99% of independent places have digital storage of reciepts just like the dealer...you don't even have to keep a file. Just call and they will make copies for you.

If calling a few shops is too much work..ok. But...at least acknowledge the option exists. If you would rather drop a few thousand dollars on something you like less then what you had (or like the replacment as much or more) more power to you, but if that isn't what a person would rather do, there are options.

As far as the rest....think whatever you want. I'm an independent tech....no certifications outside of ASE which I haven't retested for in years. The guys with manufacturer certifications call me for help, I don't call them. That is way more common then you think. Outside of me calling them to get TSB info. They call because they can't diagnose problems without being told what it is by the someone else... Or a piece of paper (TSB). If you think that is the pinnacle of auto repair...I disagree.

Reality is, dealer techs are very often the new guys just out of school, or with a few years under their belt, the independent techs are the guys with decades of experience that got tired of working at dealers. Half the guys out there have held certs in multiple brands not just one...dealership turnover is insane and all those people that quit after getting tired of having to sell quotas instead of repairing problems.... have to go somewhere.....after the third or fourth dealer, they go independent.

Generally new techs start at a dealers, bouncing around for a few years, till they get really good, then quit to go work fewer hours with less stress and make double or more in income at an independent place. Not always but enough it's very common. More common then a good independent guy deciding he wants to go work for a car dealer for sure.

Do whatever you want, just trying to share info.

If you dump your Alfa cause your want another car, more power to you. There are alot of great cars out there, find yours and enjoy it.

If you are thinking of dumping your Alfa because of a dealer, and wish you didn't have to, don't want anything else......just offering an alternative option/perspective.

Not trying to insult anyone's opinion, just presenting mine along with the reasons why I hold it. If I seem critical or offensive it is not in my heart, not intended, please forgive me.
 

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Yeah...that is what you think based on one tech? What 4 or five dealers? Ten even? In one area of the country. For sure. I have seen the same thing.

Regardless the overall picture is alot bigger then that. Always exceptions, in a world with billions of people...there are alot of expeceptions. Still exceptions.
 

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There are horror stories about every dealership and auto repair shop in existence. Also great stories. Regardless the trends are the trends....dealer techs become Indy techs more that the other way around. If doing some research and trying something new isn't for you, don't do it.

If it is, then do it. Either way, acknowledge the possibility exists...keeps your brain young.
 

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Magna International is Canadian. Which technically is American but the implication is US.

Magna Steyr is German (Austrian specifically).

Pretty sure Magna Int is the North American arm of Magna Steyr. Not that that matters, what does though is the part Alfa got from them were re-engineneered by Alfa to be stronger and respond faster then the off-the-shelf parts (those would be what BMW uses).

Saying you don't think Alfa engineered anything....well, that shows what you don't know, not what you do. Just how that is.

On an equally on topic note:

I just ate the best Carne Asada burrito of my life. I am so happy and full right now....ate too fast though. It's ok...no pain no gain.
 

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....I ran the Ford service dept at a couple different branches of one of the biggest Ford dealers in the world and...when I talk trash about dealers.....it's Ford I am talking about. Best thing you have with them is there are always multiple dealers, unlike Alfa. Otherwise..same day, different dollar. Ford techs replace thing to see what will happen all the time..mostly because Ford engineering doesn't respond to most inquiries.

Good luck. Not trying to be negative just ....keep your expectations realistic is all. The cars are a more known factor in terms of what fails and there are more dealers and more techs with alot of experience....but better support from the factory or less manipulative dealers.....yeah..hope I'm out of touch and wrong.

Please enjoy your car, don't let me ruin that in anyway...just..maybe easier to enjoy it long term if you have realistic expectations.

Hopefully, and probably it won't matter as most likely you won't need any warranty work on the Ford.
 

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Is this the high speed oil control solenoid?

Have you changed your oil at 10k every oil change?

Realize contaminants in the oil can cause a solenoid to stick.

Which is exactly why I was worried by the grit I found still in my engine after a 10k oil change.

Not saying you did anything wrong, saying Alfa should have spec'de shorter oil change intervals. Really every manufacturer should IMO. Not because the oil fails..because the filter does and allows unfiltered oil to circulate in various amounts. Hydraulic valvetrain uses engine oil...small pieces of dirt are not welcome. (I think that's why they didn't put an oil dipstick in the Alfa engine but did in the Jeep. I think Alfa knows MultiAir is very sensitive to any dirt.. more so than a normal valvetrain like Jeep uses. Total guess/assumption not fact)
 

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It helps when you are a tech and can show the independent shop how to use what they have to work on an Alfa.....it's just an FCA vehicle, but alot of places get scared by the name.

It's the same engine as a Jeep Cherokee/Wrangler, same transmission as any one of a dozen cars from as many brands... Really not as crazy as shops think.

But yeah... I fully acknowledge your point as valid.... It just shouldn't be.
 
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