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Another comparison between Stelvio 2.2 diesel Q4 and Jaguar F-Pace 2.0D AWD by italian magazine Quattroruote, Stelvio is the winner by far.

Stelvio performance disrupts the 4 cylinder diesel competition, in straight line speed is almost as fast as the 3.0V6 diesels of the competition, faster than the F-Pace S 3.0V6 diesel, on track is almost 5"0 faster than the F-Pace 2.0 Diesel AWD, 4"6 faster than the Audi Q5 2.0TDI 190hp Quattro, 7"0 faster than Mercedes GLC 220d 4Matic, 2"9 seconds faster than the 6 cylinder 3.0l BMW X4 xDrive30d M Sport with staggered tyres.
Stelvio 2.2 diesel Q4 with standard suspension, 235 tyres and an ESP you cannot switch off, is just 0"79 slower than then 3.0V6 Porsche Macan S diesel with the optional staggered tyres(265 front/295 rear), optional PASM suspension, optional Chrono Sport Pack and the ESP switched off.
And all this with the lowest fuel consumption in its segment.
Is a game changer.
 

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The Stelvio may not be as fuel efficient, but its overall performance seems to be ahead of the F-Pace, at least from what I can understand in that comparison. NOt quite sure what the chart is telling me.
 

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No, Stelvio 2.2 diesel Q4 is more fuel efficient than F-Pace 2.0D AWD, actually best in class.


Combined Consumption
Stelvio 2.2 diesel Q4: 13,3km/l = 31,3mpg
F-Pace 2.0D AWD: 12,8km/l = 30,1mpg

previous tests of the same magazine
GLC 220 d 4Matic: 13,3km/l = 31,3mpg
new Audi Q5 2.0TDI Quattro: 13,1km/l = 30,8mpg

Performance

0-100km/h(0-62mph)
Stelvio 2.2 diesel Q4 6"5
F-Pace 2.0D AWD 9"8

0-160km/h(0-100mph)
Stelvio 17"6
F-Pace 28"9

0-400m(0-1/4 mile)
Stelvio 14"7
F-Pace 16"9

70-120km/h(44-75mph) in D
Stelvio 6"8
F-Pace 9"9

100-0km/h (62-0mph)
Stelvio 39,7m = 130ft
F-Pace 39,5m =130ft

160-0km/h (100-0mph)
Stelvio 93,4m = 306ft
F-Pace 94,5m = 310ft

lateral acceleration
Stelvio 1,03g (with ESP On!!!)
F-Pace 0,97g (with ESP off)

lap in Vairano test track
Stelvio 2.2 diesel Q4: 1'24"49 (with ESP On!!!)
F-Pace 2.0D AWD: 1'29"40 (with ESP off)

previous tests of Quattroruote
new Audi Q5 2.0TDI Quattro: 1'29"13 (with ESP sport)
Mercedes GLC 220 d 4Matic: 1'31"48 (with ESP off)

Also if you check the graphics F-Pace is better as acoustic comfort, but Stelvio is superior as suspension comfort and vibrations, which means that it has better ride quality.
 

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Stelvio is the only SUV that has performance similar to the sedan it derives from

data from Quattroruote magazine (SUV Vs Sedan with the same engine)

lap in Vairano track

Stelvio 2.2 diesel Q4 1'24"49
Giulia Veloce 2.2 diesel Q4 1'24"50

Jaguar F-Pace 2.0D AWD 1'29"40
Jaguar XE 2.0D 1'27"20

Audi Q5 2.0TDI Quattro 1'29"13
Audi A4 2.0TDI 1'28"03

Mercedes GLC 220 d 4matic 1'31"48
Mercedes C 220 d 1'29"30
 

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As you probably don't know Italian.

pagella = report card

driving position:
Stelvio 4,5
F-Pace 5

commands and instrumentation:
Stelvio 4,5
F-Pace 3,5

audio & navigation
Stelvio 4
F-Pace 3,5

Visibility
Stelvio 3,5
F-Pace 3

Fit and finish
Stelvio 4,5
F-Pace 4,5

optional accessories list
Stelvio 3,5
F-Pace 4,5

Security equipment
Stelvio: 3,5
F-Pace: 3,5

Driving assistance
Stelvio: 4
F-Pace: 3,5

Cabin Space
Stelvio: 4,5
F-Pace: 4

Luggage (Trunk Space)
Stelvio: 4
F-Pace: 3,5

Comfort
Stelvio: 4
F-Pace: 4,5

Engine
Stelvio: 5
F-Pace: 3,5

Acceleration:
Stelvio: 5
F-Pace: 3

Reprise (acceleration in motion e.g. 50-75mph)
Stelvio: 5
F-Pace: 3,5

transmission
Stelvio: 5
F-Pace: 4

steering
Stelvio: 5
F-Pace: 3,5

brakes
Stelvio: 4,5
F-Pace: 5

fuel consumption
Stelvio: 4
F-Pace: 3,5

Warranty*
Stelvio: 2
F-Pace: 3

*in Italy Alfa offers the EU standard 2 years as base warranty, and Jaguar Italia offers 3 years. In US the situation is totally different as Alfa USA offers 4 years warranty and Jaguar USA offers also 4 years warranty.
 

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Thanks for the translations! The Stelvio is the overall winner and they're both similarly priced too. I'm more of a petrol person, but I'm sure its performance is no less spectacular when compared to a petrol F-Pace.
 

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The extra cargo space is a bonus, but it really won't be the deciding factor even if there's less space than the F-Pace. That's what roof racks are for. What matters is performance as those numbers can't be easily changed.
 

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The Stelvio also has one extra gear with the automatic compared to the F-Pace, meaning better fuel economy and less shift shock.
 

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That'll definitely come in real handy on those longer highway trips. Drop it into high gear, cruise on, and relax a little bit.
 

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If they have the same automatic transmission, how come the Alfa has an extra gear? Wouldn't that make it a different model of transmission?
 

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Last I heard that ZF 8HP shifts like butter and helps the Giulia be a true drivers car, enough that you will forget about owning a manual. Just look at what Giulia owners are saying :D
 

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Ah for the purists, there's no replacing a manual transmission. If there isn't a clutch and a lever to move up and down and side to side... you can't forget about it ;)
 

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Well that depends on for what precise reasons you liked having a manual for. If you can't see yourself with out a 3rd pedal and without a shifter for that extra engagement then of course. But a product higher up the scale like this, moving away from manual is a bit easier.
 

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Extra engagement is almost always the most important reason for driving a manual, that's not even questionable.

Typically going SUV though, you grow more in to terms of not having a manual transmission and being okay with it. The vast majority of people do whether or not higher end or "average level"
 

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With more practical cars like SUVs and Crossovers, I assume most drivers won't care if there's a manual option and may even prefer automatic. Then there are more performance orientated vehicles that can go on track like the Giulia QV, though it seems like there isn't a large demand for it in certain markets like the U.S. That's why the states aren't getting the manual transmission Giulia.
 
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