We initially had a '19 Stelvio QV straight out of the showroom with 18 miles on the odometer. We had no issues with the car until after the dealer performed the 10k service. Subsequently, between 10k an 21k, the car was repeatedly towed back to the dealer for the CEL, stuck in N mode, start/stop function disabled, HVAC blower vents not working at all, radiator replaced because they said it was leaking, a total of 9 spark plugs replaced, 6 ignition coils, repainting due to damage caused by using a pry bar of some sort to remove the bumper to get to the radiator, etc. With that said, ultimately went to a different dealer on the CEL light recurrence and this dealer said that they inspected/drove the car over a week after clearing all stored faults. We got to 22k with no further problems and my wife got T-boned while driving solo and 4 of the 6 air bags deployed. Car was totaled but she walked away with minor aches and no hospital visits. This latter fact alone was enough to convince her that she wanted the same car. Due to Covid times, brand new Stelvio QVs are as rare as a chupacabra sighting. Luckily, we found a '18 Stelvio QV with 15k on the odometer and have had no issues to date; we just had the 20k service performed fairly recent. In addition, we procured a '17 Giulia QV with 5k miles on the odometer and have not had any issues with it. She alternates between the 2 as her daily driver (~70 miles daily) while I sit on the computer and work from home. Oh yeah, the initial dealer that we purchased and "serviced" the '19 Stelvio QV is no longer in business. We've had the X5, X3, Macan S and Macan Turbo prior to going Alfa. There really is no comparison in how driving these cars makes you feel compared to the others. The 2.9L, twin-turbo engine is truly a masterpiece.
Stelvio Quadrifoglio Owners...any Buyer's Regret?
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No Regrets only excitement and smiles every time I drive, if You are a driver there is no other car in its class and price point that compares good luck in Your choice!
I don't know what the future looks like, but it looks like electric and somewhat self driving cars with subscription services to get the heated seats and radio to work all the while uploading every drive and button you press in the car to someone's cloud server so they can sell your data.
All the mfgrs are heading in this direction including AR as the current Georgio platform is going away
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I decided I wanted the best driver focused ICE car available right now and now's the time to get one before they go extinct. I drove the Alfa and some of its competitors and bought the Alfa.
All the mfgrs are heading in this direction including AR as the current Georgio platform is going away
. I decided I wanted the best driver focused ICE car available right now and now's the time to get one before they go extinct. I drove the Alfa and some of its competitors and bought the Alfa.
I agree drove Porshe Macan , MB GLC63AMG, BMWX6, and others kept going back to the Quadrifoglio nothing feels and drives like the Quadrifoglio period..I don't know what the future looks like, but it looks like electric and somewhat self driving cars with subscription services to get the heated seats and radio to work all the while uploading every drive and button you press in the car to someone's cloud server so they can sell your data.
All the mfgrs are heading in this direction including AR as the current Georgio platform is going away
I decided I wanted the best driver focused ICE car available right now and now's the time to get one before they go extinct. I drove the Alfa and some of its competitors and bought the Alfa.
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The only regret I have is not buying it sooner.
I've had the following cars in the last 2 years:
2018 M550i
2020 X5 M50i
2019 M2 Competition with a Stage 1 tune (ran 11.3s 1/4)
2021 M5 Competition
The closest thing that came to it as far as driving pleasure is the M2. The others are just big luxury boxes that are undoubtedly fast, but can't come close to it when it comes to putting a smile on your face or making you feel like you are driving something special.
I've had the following cars in the last 2 years:
2018 M550i
2020 X5 M50i
2019 M2 Competition with a Stage 1 tune (ran 11.3s 1/4)
2021 M5 Competition
The closest thing that came to it as far as driving pleasure is the M2. The others are just big luxury boxes that are undoubtedly fast, but can't come close to it when it comes to putting a smile on your face or making you feel like you are driving something special.
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BMW just doesn't drive ultimate anymore...........M2 is the only vehicle they make worth a second look and even it has grown bigger than a e46 era M car.........big powerful german muscle cars. Rarely see new ones at track days. Many former M folks are tracking new Camaros with plenty of money left over for the consumables.The only regret I have is not buying it sooner.
I've had the following cars in the last 2 years:
2018 M550i
2020 X5 M50i
2019 M2 Competition with a Stage 1 tune (ran 11.3s 1/4)
2021 M5 Competition
The closest thing that came to it as far as driving pleasure is the M2. The others are just big luxury boxes that are undoubtedly fast, but can't come close to it when it comes to putting a smile on your face or making you feel like you are driving something special.
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It’s Teslas most of the time at our house but there’s room for one gas car. I replaced a GLC63 AMG with a G80 M3 manual in the spring but it only lasted 3 months. Just traded it in for a 22 Stelvio Quadrifoglio. Needed the noise.
Forgive my ignorance, but what is an ICE car? 😳I don't know what the future looks like, but it looks like electric and somewhat self driving cars with subscription services to get the heated seats and radio to work all the while uploading every drive and button you press in the car to someone's cloud server so they can sell your data.
All the mfgrs are heading in this direction including AR as the current Georgio platform is going away
I decided I wanted the best driver focused ICE car available right now and now's the time to get one before they go extinct. I drove the Alfa and some of its competitors and bought the Alfa.
Thanks. I thought it would be something much more complicated 🤪Just a lazy way of saying internal combustion engine
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I am seriously considering going from 2020 Veloce to Quadrigfolio. I think these cars will not loose their value. Given the global situation and electrical vehicles , performance ICE cars will keep and even going up their value in near future. Yesterday my friends friend, sold his GTR for the exact money he bought it 4 years ago, with 40 000km on it. So , it will be better investment than getting newer Veloce 2.0 T engine for sure. Not to mention the joy from the performance. I also think the QV will only consume about 2 litters more than Veloce at worst if driving everyday normally. My best in the last two years was 8/100 l/km and my average for 28 000km is 13.2 / 100 l/km . It is around 13-15 in the city usually . I didn't bought it to save fuel , will not try to do it with QV also. Not to mention that the QV has real oil dipstick. Without dipstick I have constant doubts about the real oil level with the Veloce, although it does not consume oil between changes after the first two changes- around 200ml.
Not to mention that the QV has real oil dipstick. Without dipstick I have constant doubts about the real oil level with the Veloce, although it does not consume oil between changes after the first two changes- around 200ml.
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recent QV owner and it's been very good so far, not sure what a Veloce drives like since it's my first Alfa but it's excellent. I can't speak to the resale value of a Stelvio in Bulgari (assumption from your flag) but in Canada, I highly doubt ill get what i paid for it due to the 15k of taxes I had to pay. I did get to save approx. 2k of luxury tax we are getting in September.
Many have sold vehicles for as much as they paid for them pre-pandemic since they bought cars at cost or even below cost then. At full pop pricing Im not sure new car owners will see such returns, but that's just my assumption.
I also don't know about V6 engines in general, I do know high-performance V8s are in high demand though.
however, even if you end up losing a small amount on the QV it will still be worth the experience of owning one I'm sure. If you don't lose much or who knows possibly even end up making more off it then it's just a huge bonus.
Many have sold vehicles for as much as they paid for them pre-pandemic since they bought cars at cost or even below cost then. At full pop pricing Im not sure new car owners will see such returns, but that's just my assumption.
I also don't know about V6 engines in general, I do know high-performance V8s are in high demand though.
however, even if you end up losing a small amount on the QV it will still be worth the experience of owning one I'm sure. If you don't lose much or who knows possibly even end up making more off it then it's just a huge bonus.
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Yeah man, I agree. I wanted to say that any performance car will keep value with as minimal loss as possible. The GTR was just an example.The Veloce drives excellent and I love it. I just miss another 230hp more and just a little more sound from the exhaust.
In that regard if somebody tested both, is driving iin N or A mode with QV comfortable/not noise enough for cruising at highway on longer distances often ? Last question for whom tested both, how's the ride comfort on soft/comfort settings compared to 280hp car , equipped also with active suspension ? My car is with standard suspension and 20 wheels, but I know the difference with active. Suppose , the active suspension is the same on QV and 280hp ??? Thanks in advance.N mode is very quiet. I have 20s and I mostly drive it in D w soft setting for driving around town and rough sections of road are just fine. It feels like the soft setting in D = N to me. I haven’t even tried A yet Even going to D in auto mode it’s not too crazy because it upshifts rather low in the rev range. The big step change in personality comes when you go into manual mode in D and let it wind out. It barks and spits and turns into an animal.
Even going to D in auto mode it’s not too crazy because it upshifts rather low in the rev range. The big step change in personality comes when you go into manual mode in D and let it wind out. It barks and spits and turns into an animal.
A previous owner of a 2016 4C spider I was somewhat skeptical...not anymore. The first time I was in Race mode coming off a ramp onto the highway in third (manual) redlined and switched into 4th. the bark was the same or better than the 4C going a lot faster. The engine is unreal as far as power and sound. This will ignite your for fire for sure. The 4C is still a more of a race car without question,, but the QV is an SUV that will continue to put a smile on your face every time you drive it.
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I bought my first Alfa Romeo in my life in 2018 (Stelvio Quadrifoglio). I had several issues with the car in the beginning all of which were resolved under warranty (mostly electronic gremlins)… After more than 4.5 years I can say it's the best running car I've ever owned (coming from Volvo and Mercedes). I treat the car like a close family member that sometimes annoys you a lot, but in the end you still love him/her.. it's also the best medicine for a midlife crisis... by pressing the red start button you feel within a few minutes 30 years younger...
I reqret putting the fake clover on my car, people think I'm a poser, but I need it for a couple of months before I can swap mine out. I'm not sure how I'll hide the change in wood trim to CF, but once she's used to the white sticker, I'll sort that out. the dark wheels and window trim will be much easier to explain away, but the seats and dash and trim will require some good gaslighting.
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Good luck with parts inventories. The goons in Italy are mixing up parts numbers for Fiats and Alfas. I can't make this **** up. After 6.5 clusterfuck filled months waiting get my car back with multiple parts screw ups, delays etc the final piece...windshield replacement went poorly...why you ask??? because some fn idiot in Turin is putting Alfa parts # stickers on Fiats....Fiat windshields don't fit Stelvios very well. So now the shop has a worst case scenario, a fully prepped for delivery vehicle with no windshield........gettin close to saying F Alfa and folks here know I love them. BTW, Maserati does NOT have this issue........nor are Grecales being built on the same assembly line. The head of parts at all of my dealerships stores is beside himself because Alfa has itself so sheltered from reality you can't climb the corporate ladder for resolution. I found a Stelantis form for Alfa I will light up tonight. Alfa has a week or the love affair is over.
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Flustercluck, for the sensitive reader.
I bet a grecale windshield would fit .... and considering its based on the stelvio, I'm surprised that a screw up like that is with fiat parts when much of the grecale is stelvio.
My only guess is the parts shipping depot is not at the manufacturing facility, and handles multiple stelantis brands, maybe maser too.
In any event that just plain sucks. It has been a long time, and you didn't get much drive time to start with.
Uh oh, factory hack is creating another quadrifauxlio. A lot of it i get, but replacing wood with reinforced plastic, and dumping those nice lusso seats ... I would have ordered that for my quad if it was available.
I bet a grecale windshield would fit .... and considering its based on the stelvio, I'm surprised that a screw up like that is with fiat parts when much of the grecale is stelvio.
My only guess is the parts shipping depot is not at the manufacturing facility, and handles multiple stelantis brands, maybe maser too.
In any event that just plain sucks. It has been a long time, and you didn't get much drive time to start with.
Uh oh, factory hack is creating another quadrifauxlio. A lot of it i get, but replacing wood with reinforced plastic, and dumping those nice lusso seats ... I would have ordered that for my quad if it was available.
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