[Deman77]

You can have fronts PS4S and rears PS4 all oem sizes. that’s what I was planning to do when I heard everyone moan about p zeros.

 

[mc3456]

You can have fronts PS4S and rears PS4 all oem sizes. that’s what I was planning to do when I heard everyone moan about p zeros.

Personally, I would not mix two very different tires on the same vehicle.

 

[Deman77]

They are very similar tyre with a bit more comfort and consistency and better aqua planing on PS4 and a bit more bite and better steering feel on PS4s. I doubt you could tell the difference unless pushing past 9/10.
Here is comparison and keep in mind this is on track by a guy who for himself drives Cups on e92 m3 all year round.

 

[Gsartori]

Personally, I would not mix two very different tires on the same vehicle.

On the same Axle is not a problem particularly those that are virtually identical.

 

[ViscontiVerde 164L*]

I just ran a set of OLD Pirelli PZeros on track Friday on a GTS that were worn down to 4/32nds. They had FANTASTIC GRIP as long as I didn't stay out too long and let them get greasey.
Look into Continental offerings IMHO. Overall better value and within a >1->2 in all testing...besides second half of their life will probably be better as that has always been the weakness I see in Michelins.

 

[jerehada]

I just ran a set of OLD Pirelli PZeros on track Friday on a GTS that were worn down to 4/32nds. They had FANTASTIC GRIP as long as I didn't stay out too long and let them get greasey.
Look into Continental offerings IMHO. Overall better value and within a >1->2 in all testing...besides second half of their life will probably be better as that has always been the weakness I see in Michelins.

Agree have a reputation and tested are really bad for road noise, already not a strength of the Quad. I think the Zeros are an excellent track tire you can see reviews where they come top but as a sport road tyre maybe the Michelins or others are better but its all subjective feel and road dependant.

 

[QuadHHi]

I recently changed my Pzeros with Latitude Sport 3. I only have 200 miles on them, so far they're good. I am waiting for some decent tropical rain in Florida to test them on wet roads...
I'll provide more feedback after some more miles... but definitely not hearing the pop sound when turning in tight spaces is a plus already!

How is the road noise on LS3s? Quieter than the stock Pzeros??

 

[mc3456]

A set of Michelins are 14lbs heavier (unsprung weight) than the Pirellis. Though I’d prefer Michelins over Pirellis, the added weight will objectively worsen performance. Will wait to see if anything new comes out before mounting another set of Summer tires next Spring. Here‘s to hoping for an update!

 

[chicagofire]

Sorry for reviving a stale thread, but, what are people going with these days? I need to switch to summers soon.

 

[WOP_Drive]

I did just make the switch to the Latitude Sport 3's....price was near equivalent to the PZeros. I really like 'em so far! They ARE OEM size in case you were wondering. The Ackerman effect is significantly reduced (I only experienced it once when the tires were cold). The big selling point for me was the 20K mile warranty. So far I've got about 400 miles on' em.

 

[chicagofire]

I did just make the switch to the Latitude Sport 3's....price was near equivalent to the PZeros. I really like 'em so far! They ARE OEM size in case you were wondering. The Ackerman effect is significantly reduced (I only experienced it once when the tires were cold). The big selling point for me was the 20K mile warranty. So far I've got about 400 miles on' em.

Doesn’t the warranty require tire rotation?

 

[Alfata]

The Latitude 3 are great everyday tyres. They are way less sporty as the PZero, but do an overall good job. I had great wear on them (lasted about 50.000km on a 2.0T).
Their is only one BIG drawback: the dry out so quickly. The cheek of the tyre gets really ugly with all kind of cracks in the sidewall.

 

[WOP_Drive]

Doesn’t the warranty require tire rotation?

No.
For the Quadrifoglio, our tire sizes are staggered (i.e. different sized tires in the front versus the rear). Furthermore, most high performance tires are directional in nature; thus, preventing even rotating the fronts left to right and the rears left to right.

Here's what my 2019 Quadrifoglio Owner's Manual states:

The Michelin Warranty is here, https://dcadprod.azureedge.net/b2c-...dha925kpy-michelin-replacement-owner-s-manual-warranty-mdw41156-august-2021.pdf.
Here's an excerpt:

So the Latitude Sport 3 20K warranty still applies

 

[chicagofire]

From that warranty link

Treadwear
If the tire treadwear does not reach its mileage warranty a pro rata replacement of the tire may be available under this warranty. For the mileage warranty associated with a specific tire, please see your Michelin tire retailer or visit Michelin Warranty Information | Michelin.
In order to maintain the treadwear warranty on your tires, the tires must be rotated every 6,000-8,000 miles (10,000 -12,000 km), or as recommended by the vehicle manufacturer, whichever rotation period is less. Failure to rotate the tires as provided herein voids the treadwear warranty.
Note that if you use different size tires on the front and rear axles, your tires cannot be rotated as recommended by Michelin. As a result, the mileage warranty on each rear tire will be half that specified.

 

[GWRmotohead]

just curious, if they're non directional, they can be rotated side to side easily on the axle, (even if they're directional, they could be too, with a dismount and remount)

it appears this doesn't count? do they have to do time on each corner, to be "rotated"?

edited to fix my English

 

[WOP_Drive]

So. . good discussion! Here's my take. . . I purchased these OEM sized Latitude Sport 3's through Discount Tire. . . and I'd be hard-pressed if they wouldn't honor the 20K mile Warranty. . . and, frankly, all I'm looking for is, perhaps, a little money/credit towards the next set of tires I replace these with (assuming it's before the 20K miles).

. . . and upon further inspection, these Latitude Sport 3's aren't directional. . . rather they're stamped with "Outside". . .so they could be swapped/rotated from side to side without remounting them

 

[ViscontiVerde 164L*]

I just ran a set of OLD Pirelli PZeros on track Friday on a GTS that were worn down to 4/32nds. They had FANTASTIC GRIP as long as I didn't stay out too long and let them get greasey.
Look into Continental offerings IMHO. Overall better value and within a >1->2 in all testing...besides second half of their life will probably be better as that has always been the weakness I see in Michelins.

Ran a set of ECS almost to the cords last fall. Pushed them hard enough to wear 2-3/32nds off outside of each tread v inside from sliding at their limits. Never gave up anything and did not delam like a bunch of Michelins I saw as they got tired........will take pictures of delam Michelins this summer for the non believers. And they are still going till new rubber arrives

 

[ViscontiVerde 164L*]

DO NOT RUN PZEROS IF YOU WILL EVER EXPERIENCE A COOL MORNING OR EVENING....YOU'LL BE SORRY LIKE I AM!!!!!

 

[lost1750GTV]

Or if you encounter temps/conditions outside the design parameters of ANY tire, exercise an appropriate level of prudence.

 

[ViscontiVerde 164L*]

Which means Columbus Day to Memorial Day in New England if 45 is the parameter you must adhere to. A 30 degree parameter would make it more like Halloween to Patriots day like many newer offerrings.
Everyone always says a winter tire has issues in the rain if too warm......