I've literally walked into a random Jeep/Dodge dealership and bought some...Make sure you talk to someone in the parts department and not a service advisor.

 

Thank you. It is hard to get it online. I`ll do the same thing you did.

 

Mopar 0W-30 Oil | Centerline Alfa, OEM & Aftermarket Alfa Romeo Car Parts

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I saw that but it says "Note: Oil may be Mopar MaxPro+ or Pennzoil Platinum Euro LX 0W-30 depending on availability. Both oils meet relevant FIAT specifications. "
I could get the pennzoil from amazon much cheaper ,but would like to stick to Maxpro +

 

I use Centerline for most of my classic Alfa parts and they have been good to me so far.

 

Pennzoil Platinum technically doesn't meet all the newest specs.

I have used it, like using it, and think it is great oil, but it doesn't carry the correct certifications.

Mobil One Advanced Fuel Economy 0w30 does.

If you can't get Mopar that meets or exceeds the requirements in terms of certifications.

 

Pennzoil Platinum technically doesn't meet all the newest specs.

I have used it, like using it, and think it is great oil, but it doesn't carry the correct certifications.

Mobil One Advanced Fuel Economy 0w30 does.

If you can't get Mopar that meets or exceeds the requirements in terms of certifications.

That is why I`m trying to stick with Mopar maxpro+.
So Mobil one is the one to go if I can`t find mopar oil.
Thank you!!!

 

How do you change your own oil and make sure it doesn't void your warranty?

 

I keep the receipts and a maintenance log, never had any issues with the dealer. Just for the record Mobil1 is listed in either this, the Giulia or the 4C blog as the oil supplier for Mopar. We had the Alfa dealer tell us to go to Napa and buy the oil filter because they were out of those too.

A just to really "kick the hornet's nest" -AND I'M NOT GOING TO GET INVOLVED BUT I LOVE TO STIR UP SH!T- what do you 'oil people' think about the fact that Pennzoil 5W-40 for the 4C is approved by Chrysler but Quaker State 5W-40 isn't. Oh, did I mention they are made in the same refinery and chemically are identical...
Gotta love factory warrantee requirements.

 

Boy did you open a can of worms...........

 

you're right...better served in a different thread. Don't need to hijack alfako's thread!

 

1. Mopar stock oil - call your dealer or buy online
2. Mobile 1 AFE - easy to come by at Walmart or Autopart stores
3. Fram has a 0w-30 that's SP rated, which seems to be repackaged Amalie, carquest or autozone
4. Amalie 0w-30 which you can find online,

all above are SP, so should be acceptable.

 

Certifications aren't free.


Oil companies make a financial case for each certification they apply for, simply put it doesn't pay to certify every product line with every possible certification so they don't. By certifying some products one way and other another you create differentiation and value for each line.

IMO, this describes Pennzoil platinum Euro 0w30. It doesn't carry the needed certifications for Alfa, only because it hasn't been certified, if it were it would pass. Regardless if you want to keep your warranty you use oil with the right certifications which isn't Pennzoil. Yes, it's a game, unfortunatly it's a game we have no choice but to play. Kinda like daylight savings time, which is another absolute piece of BS that exists only because a bunch of people decided it needs to. 1st world problems, life is so easy we make up crap to complicate it for no reason other the to have something to do/justify a job.

(I used Pennzoil as an example because, I know it will pass every cert needed for these cars and is probably the best oil on the market.... But... Can't use it and keep warranty. Despite the FACT, Penzoil pure platinum is the same oil as Shell/Maserati oil, which you know Maserati will be putting in the Grecale because it meets all requirements for these engines..)

 

Hi.
Hope you had a great thanksgiving.
bought my alfa stelvio ti sport couple month ago and trying to change oil by myself.
I`d like to buy OEM Mopar max plus 0w-30 but I can`t find any website that selling it.
I called local mopar dealer and they don`t have it. Alfa romeo dealer near me wants $450 oil change.
Does anyone knows website that sells mopar max plus?
Thank you.

My dealer charges 300.00for an oil change. Did you ask why 450.00?

 

Mine also charges $450, but I'm in Los Angeles. 🙄

 

My oil change costs ~60 bucks and a few cold ones.. Once every year or 2, I make trip to the dump with all the recycled oil....They ALL drain for at least 30 minutes at an angle to maximize release of the last bits (the worst stuff). Remember Home Ecomics and woodworking classes..or basic maintenance classes? Know its been replaced by dealing with thumb fatigue............101

 

Hi.
Hope you had a great thanksgiving.
bought my alfa stelvio ti sport couple month ago and trying to change oil by myself.
I`d like to buy OEM Mopar max plus 0w-30 but I can`t find any website that selling it.
I called local mopar dealer and they don`t have it. Alfa romeo dealer near me wants $450 oil change.
Does anyone knows website that sells mopar max plus?
Thank you.

OEM filter is available from Walmart and Amazon. Here's the Amazon link: https://www.amazon.com/Mopar-048923...ilter+4892339ab&qid=1669988032&sprefix=mopar+oil+filter+4892339ab,aps,50&sr=8-1

As for oil, I use Mobil 1 AFE. around $25 for 5 gallon and 7-8 for 1 quart. so combined about $45-50 at the most for your oil change.

 

watch for specials like this at your Alfa dealer! I made my appt to take advantage of it. This is Benson Alfa in Greenville, SC

 

Also on your mobile app there are specials. $79 for full synthetic and 3 for 200?... I can't remember, through Mopar.

 

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watch for specials like this at your Alfa dealer! I made my appt to take advantage of it. This is Benson Alfa in Greenville, SC

I checked my local alfa, there are none of specials.

 

Just went on my app and found this.. try calling the dealer with the coupon code. My app is called My Mopar

 

Just went on my app and found this.. try calling the dealer with the coupon code. My app is called My Mopar
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Just downloaded app and registered my stelvio. I don't get any offers, but thank you for the tip. If I get something like this offer, I will definitely get it. For now, I ordered mobil1 and mopar oem filter.

 

Just an FYI, this coupon applies to FCA US LLC. so most Chrysler and Jeep dealer has to honor it. Problem is whether they know the Alfa or not.

 

I went to local Jeep, Dodge, Chrysler dealer yesterday if they have max pro oil, they don't have them. Also asked if they can do oil change on my stelvio when you have mopar max plus available. They said they don't have access to Alfa romeo thus they can't do it. Hmm, they use mopar oil and filter though.

 

honestly there are only two places I would trust to get it right, the Alfa Dealership or my garage since I will take the time to do a little research. I just bought my Stelvio from a Hyundai dealership and the salesman was very proud to tell me they did a 120 pt inspection and changed the oil for me. I made an appointment with my Alfa Dealership as I was driving off the lot.

 

I bought my stelvio at Echopark and they did inspection and oil change. I drove my car for a month and got engine check light on. Went to alfa dealer and found vacuum hose loosen and some oil leak on engine timing belt area. Warranty covers evrything. They clean my car in and out. It was great experience. Love my stelvio, but I am not paying $450 on just oil change. I rather do it myself.

 

Technically exotic cars don't exist anymore, or are alot rarer then we think.

Take a Lambo Urus.

Lambos are by definition exotic right?

... Only if you define exotic as sharing a significant number of parts including the engine with several other mass produced cars including some rather inexpensive VWs.

It isn't exotic... It just looks like it. That describes most exotics now.

IMO the Stelvio is more exotic then most exotics just because it is the first use of electric brakes. Half a decade pater they are still primarily an unknown factor due to them still being rare.

But to address your point.... Normal cars have gotten harder to work on them "exotics" were in the 80' and 90's. So shops are charging exotics prices pretty much for everything that isn't considered an economy or family car.

If things were charged fairly... Actually based on work... A Fiat 500 would cost more for an oil change then a Stelvio. It's a lot more of a pain on the butt. Alot.

But... Shops can't. Oil change pricing is based less on the amount of work and more on what the shop thinks they can get. Cheap cars get cheap.. expensive expensive. Nothing to do with the amount of work.

 

Agreed, but $450 still seems extraordinarily high! I guess they charge it because they can.

 

Current link: Robot or human?
Now $29.97 / bottle (5 quarts).

At Walmart, 5 quart jug $ 24.47 (4.89 / quart). Free delivery. Was in October.

API = SP

 

$450 is highway robbery.

However, yes....people do it because they can.

And to make up for the Honda oil change they got maybe $100 (in labor) for that took more labor than the Alfa.

Should add, the dealer also has to charge prices like this for maintenance.

... Unlike any other brand you want to name, Alfa dealers do not have a fleet of 10 y/o plus cars that need expensive repairs regularly. ... And despite the reputation, new Alfa don't need much work besides maintence, and even that is less than many other brands. Basically, oil changes are all the dealer has to make money off. Doesn't make it ok, if they charged less they would probably make more because more people would go there.

 

How come no one complains Audi charging 300 for their oil changes or BMW charging 250 and yet here we are... The answer is..... The branding. Is Alfa there with Audi and BMW? Do people purchasing Alfa know the cost of maintenance upfront? This is more of question to ourselves than to the others. BMW and Audi use 0w-40 off the rack for most of their cars. even cheaper and more readily available than ours. They sell those at their service department at very affordable prices as well.
So do we drive a car that's worth that much attention for oil changes?

 

You make a funny point...Perhaps just the cheap - eh hem - FRUGAL Alfa owners chimed in on this one!

 

My ONLY issue is the Alfa oil change is both easier and often more expensive then the equivalent (insert generic German nameplate) at some dealers.

If dealers charged $2-300, no problem. It's charging over $400 that's is a bit.....unrealistic. I am definitely not saying the pricing should be like a Honda, we want more attention to detail and that costs more.

My hope is these type of conversations maybe get read by dealer personal who realize they will get more customers by charging more appropriate prices. In turn that should increase profitablity.

 

I don't know if I agree with either one of you on servicing issues.

Let's compare servicing the Stelvio (or Gulia) against my 2015 Cayman.

So, for the Cayman, I need 8 quarts of 0W-40 oil that meets the Porsche A40 oil spec.
There are a million oils that meet that specs, and one of the easiest to get is the Mobil 1 FS European Car Formula 0W-40 available at any Walmart, AutoZone, King Soopers, O'Reilly's, or anyplace else on the planet that sells engine oil. No need to even think about what oil to use than that one, as its available everywhere, and is cheap.

For the Alfa's, I need 6 quarts of API SP/GF-6A Certified SAE 0W-30, which meets the manufacturer Material Standard MS-13340.
Yeah, good luck finding that.
Or, they give you the option of using "equivalent" full synthetic 0W-30 API SP engine oil, but must have the API Donut Trademark.
Not too many of those running around right now, so Mobil 1 wins in that regards.
I'd rather use Pennzoil Platinum, too, but they haven't gotten their act together, yet.

So Porsche wins for oil.

Now lets look at the oil filters.
Just take a moment - Alfa wins that one, because you an buy the Mopar filter at any Walmart for under $12.
I have to order the Porsche Oil Filter from someplace, and its costs a bit more for an OEM Porsche, or a MANN filter.

So I have the filter, I have the oil, let's get the car off the ground in my garage, and get working.

Here, the Porsche wins, in my opinion.

I back the car onto the Rhino Ramps, and I have immediate access to both the drain plug, and oil filter housing.
Slide the pan under the car, a socket wrench, an extension, and the 8mm bit key, and I have the oil draining in about 5 minutes.

With the Alfa's, I have to mess around with that stupid under body tray for the next 10 minutes, to get access to the drain plug and the oil filter.
13 bolts and dirt in my eyes, and now I can do the deed.

So, cost wise, the Alfa oil change is cheaper for me, because less oil, cheaper oil filter, and easier to procure filter, but the Porsche doesn't require me to remove an undertray to get at the bits I need to service, and get sand in my eyes while doing it.

As for cost at a local dealer, I think my Alfa dealer charges more than the Porsche dealer does, so there's that.
It's that damn underbody tray, I tell you.
That's why they charge so much more.

 

Nothing about the Cayman is typical.

Yeah the oil change is easy.

Hell . It's the easiest car to do anything on.... As long as you have a lift and the ability to drop the engine out of the car for advanced work. The oil stuff is easy to access because it has to be, the only access to the entier engine is from under the car dude.

I put over 50k on a Boxster, yeah oil changes are gravy, let's talk about the serpentine belt where you gotta remove half the interior behind the front seat then pray your car isn't filled with rattles after and none of the leather got jacked up, or carpet stained with grease.

As far as oil selections...yeah, American brands take the certification game way too far. Euro brands are generally better, but Alfa being tied to Stellantis ...they are stuck in this BS system.

 

MaxPro+ 159AA SN+ was superseded by MaxPro+ 988AA SP last year, that is why you can't find it....outdated spec. Go for 68523988AA